02 April 2005 @ 11:41 pm
Coming out...  
... as a person with Homosexual Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. (Gave you a bit of a start there, huh?)

I must state this: I am NOT homophobic, I have NO issues with homosexuality. Although, if I say "I am not homophobic" too much, it will begin to sound insincere...! But in all honesty, duh. I'm about as homophobic as I am clever, which is not at all. ;)

I'm tired of this. I haven't talked to or seen any of my friends from high school since a birthday party thing in June. (It was June, wasn't it?) I've been going downhill since graduation and I haven't made any serious attempts at getting together with anybody. I'm going to try to arrange a get-together sometime in the near future, and when I do, I'm going to have to explain what I've been doing all this time.

I'm tired of thinking "Well, no one will get it. This isn't an obsession you talk about easily, because it's so easy to take the wrong way or be misunderstood.". I'm hoping that I'm wrong, and that I'm just very pessimistic, but... well, the obsession *is* hard to explain coherently. It's an obsession - you live in your head. You create your own logic. When you try to explain it to someone else, words tend to fail you. I write a bit better than I talk - I can articulate my thoughts more fully and can make more sense than if I were just chatting.

I've told myself that I wouldn't talk about the obsession until I got it under control, until I could claim victory and say "Well, I've beaten this thing into submission. Here's my story." It's never going to happen like that. Every day is a victory. Not a big one, but a victory all the same. I'm damn proud of myself for putting up with the shit my head comes up with. I'm going to talk about the obsession *now*. When I'm doing a-OK and feel very confident that I have a good handle on it, I'll post about it. But I'll post now, too. I'm going to post when I feel like nothing can get better. I feel like that a lot, but every day something's better. Not much is better, but little things. I can be myself again - I can be the Scarlett (well, ok, Deanna, as that's my *real* name for those who don't know!) I was a year ago. I can be the same Deanna who got the British Comedy Club going (I can only assume it's petered out now...). I can be the same Deanna who designed the Art Department section of my high school's website (it was pig doots, but you know). I can be the same Deanna. I'll just have the added knowledge that I can get through anything and that I'll always have to deal with OCD, but I can do it.

OK, enough ego-inflating.

I wrote this in an email to the wonderful and spangly Egret:
"This form of OCD is commonly referred to as Homosexual OCD, or HOCD. It doesn't actually have anything to do with one's sexuality - it's an irrational fear and can be managed, not cured, with proper medication and therapy. I started therapy for the obsession with my current therapist (I have a psychiatrist and a therapist - my psych can prescribe meds, my therapist can't. My therapist is trained in CBT, my psych isn't. It all balances out. :) ) in the fall of 2002 and went through a week of intensive CBT in February of 2003. I welcomed every "bad" thought that came into my head and did the things I wasn't able to do before therapy - get into bed while thinking of a girl and just shrugging it off and getting my mind on something else. Without medication and therapy, it's debilitating, because you spend every moment of your life doubting your own thoughts and becoming convinced that you're gay. You're not able to step back and be objective about it - you're not able to see how irrational you are and how your thoughts and compulsions are classic OCD. The only thing you can think is "But it might be real, what if I'm gay and I'm just figuring it out now? What if I've just repressed it my whole life? What if? What if? What if?". Your thoughts seem so real and you can't figure out what's real and what's not."
I had a fantastic senior year with only mild OCD symptoms, all unrelated to the HOCD. If I did have thoughts of the HOCD, they were along the lines of "What if I start worrying about that again?"

Then I graduated from high school.

Also from the same email...
"Transitions are hell for people with OCD or any sort of anxiety. I started going downhill after I graduated from high school, and it makes a lot of sense that this obsession has flared up again - I'm nervous about college and I don't have anything to occupy my mind like school. (After I get this under more control, I'm going to get a part-time job.) I thought I was cured of the obsession - I didn't think it could ever come back. Come to find out that's the worst thing you can think - it will only make any relapse you have more difficult. It will hit you harder than if you just kept it in the back of your mind that your OCD could flare up. That way you'd be able to recognize the thought/anxiety as OCD-related and handle it with techniques you learned in therapy. My therapist hadn't told me about this... that it's a lifelong thing (I know OCD is a lifelong thing, but I hadn't realized that the gay worry form was going to be there forever), and that the HOCD could come back, and that during extra-stressful times I need a little extra help so that the OCD doesn't catch me in a bad moment.

The week before Christmas (this year), I woke up terribly anxious, with the thought "Well, I may not be OK, but at least I'm not worrying about being gay again!". Cue anxiety attack. Since then I've had OK days and horrible days. Having been through it once before helps a little, but not enough. Studies have shown that people with Tourrettic tendencies (I have a touch of Tourrette's) tend to have far more vivid imaginations than most people. That's what made this bout of the obsession very difficult in the beginning - I was (am) able to vividly imagine graphic situations with women (touch, sensations, images) and that scared me. I hadn't been able to imagine such things the first time around, probably because I was still relatively young and hadn't seen very many "naughty" things (R-rated movies and the like, not porn!).

(I'm explaining the thoughts because I just want to make it clear that this really isn't a sexuality crisis, but a mental thing. One of the worst things, if not THE worst thing, to do with this obsession is to reassure yourself (or to seek reassurance from others) that it's just OCD and that it's not real. You have to learn how to function through the anxiety and with the thoughts. I'm not asking for reassurance, so please, don't post back with assurances that it *does* just sound like OCD or whatever. It would relieve my anxiety for a few minutes, but as my therapist says, "we want to stretch it to hours!" - which is only possible by not seeking relief from anxiety. I have to learn how to just let it wash over me (I was able to the first time around) and to recover from the anxiety by just getting my mind on something else, and not from an "artificial" source - someone telling me it's just OCD, me telling myself it's just OCD, etc.)"


My imagination is very vivid and in fact continues to be a big factor in any difficulty I have at this point. I can distinguish between Tourrettic tics and OCD thoughts, but that doesn't help. It is a huge leap forward though - now, instead of being in fear of the thought "What if it's REAL?", I'm just terribly, terribly frustrated that I have to deal with this crap. Yes, I do have anxious moments when the OCD takes hold and I start doubting everything, but I get through it. It sucks. It sucks mightily. (I'm making progress though, and the proverbial light at the end of the tunnel is in sight. Things are getting better.)

Why is this all so bad? Take a look at the Brainphysics OCD Bulletin Board and read what other people are going through. They're experiences aren't too far off from my own. I've done my fair share of posting there.
Again, why is this all so bad? Why can't I just get over it? I'm sure these sort of thoughts are running through your mind. I simply can't. It takes work and time. I hit rock bottom two months ago. I mean *rock bottom*. I was in such a bad way that I experienced depersonalization - "... a feeling of detachment or estrangement from one's self . The individual may feel like an automaton or as if he or she is living in a dream or a movie. There may be a sensation of being an outside observer of one's metal processes, one's body, or parts of one's body." It's common as a full-fledged disorder, or as a one-off type thing, which is what I had. I have never felt anything as bizarre and frightening as that sensation. But now I'm sitting here, writing about it. That's another victory, isn't it? :)

Some people understand OCD and some people don't. Some people think that all it takes is a bit of elbow-grease and then you'll be fine. Just get over it already! So what if you're gay?

They are the ones who don't get it.

The ones who get it realize that it's a mental disorder and cannot be cured. They get that things that cannot be cured are pretty bad. They realize that it can be managed, so it isn't that bad. But they also understand that when it's not being managed, it's very bad.

They get that it isn't a question of "accepting one's sexuality" or some crap like that. They get that it isn't about something real. They get that it is irrational but very very real to the person with OCD. They just get it.

HOCD is a bitch. I hate that it will forever have an impact on my life. I hate that it took my sophomore and junior years of high school away from my life. I hate that it's taken as much of my life as it has. I hate that I'll never be able to make anyone understand how painful it is to deal with at times. I hate that probably, in the future, I run the risk of someone thinking I'm just some insane closeted homophobe. I hate that probably, someday, someone I tell will think I'm overdramatizing my experiences. I hate that I will have to deal with HOCD and OCD for the rest of my life and that I will have to make a conscious effort all the time to manage it. I hate that I had to defer my first semester of college because I was doing so badly with the obsession. I hate OCD. I want it to take a physical form to kick it in the shins and smash it round the face and kick it in the nuts (assuming OCD has male genitalia in physical form).

I can't do that. But I can keep doing everything I can do get better, and damn it, that's what I am going to do. Fuck you, HOCD. Fuck you.

*cue dramatic music*

Feel free to comment, ask questions, whatever. Tell me what you really think. I'm sick of wondering what my friends would think if they knew that I suffered from this obsession. I'm ready to be better and I won't feel better at all if in the back of my mind I'm worrying that my friends will think I'm crazy.

Sorry for such a depressing post. But then, I'm a bit depressed, so... yeah.

Here's a bit of happiness - visit Egret's Somebody To Blog, because it's brilliant and I love it. I owe you an email! Happy Birthday Sarah - I had no idea it was your birthday and I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to post a greeting on your actual birthday... Nina, that whole thing about the comic was so weird. Some people can be really rude - your name sounds fine. ;) Sari - in all honesty, your teacher sounds creepy. :/ Your talk of Queen slash has me intrigued though... *scratches chin* Have any links? :D David - hope things are going OK for you and all that. You get to watch the new Who - I hate you very deeply for that. ;) Best of luck with your play(s?)! Morgeil (yep, I read your blog even though I can't say I know you at all!), I enjoy reading about your adventures in Who-dom. The First Doctor is excellent and gets no respect, I tell ya. Addison - I miss ya! Don't you wish we could go see Kylie? We could wear tiaras and lots and lots of glitter! :D

OK then...

Cheery bye, Scarlett/Deanna

PS - If you wanna learn more about HOCD, you can't do any worse than Googling it or "gay OCD". This piece by Dr Fred Penzel explains more about CBT, which is what I'm going through to defeat this shit.
 
 
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egretplume: nice[info]egretplume on April 2nd, 2005 11:01 pm (UTC)
I think that someday you will write the book that explains this, so everyone else who has it can feel like someone understands them.

And you know what, even if you didn't have HOCD, some people would misunderstand you about something else anyway, and women are often accused of over-reacting or being overemotional or overdramatizing -- which basically means their issues are being dismissed. So that's my probably more depressing insight -- big help I am! I hadn't realized how isolated you have been. That sounds very hard. I will pray this gets better for you soon.

Thanks for liking my Freddie blog :)

Scarlett: keep yourself alive[info]scarlett_h on April 3rd, 2005 12:45 pm (UTC)
>I think that someday you will write the book that explains this, so everyone else who has it can feel like someone understands them.

I'm horrible at taking compliments - I always want to say something self-deprecating... That's really touching that you think that. But I would be suspicious of any publisher that actually would publish a book by *me*! See? Self-deprecating. *sigh*

>And you know what, even if you didn't have HOCD, some people would >misunderstand you about something else anyway, and women are often accused of >over-reacting or being overemotional or overdramatizing -- which basically >means their issues are being dismissed. So that's my probably more depressing insight -- big help I am!

No, you're absolutely right. That's not depressing (well, it is in a more general sense!)... I already know that, and that just plain stinks. Would it be horribly cliche to say something like "Girl Power"? I suppose it would.

>I hadn't realized how isolated you have been.

What makes it frustrating is that it's a self-imposed isolation. I just sort of shut off from everybody because I feel like if I'm not feeling normal, then it would be hypocritical to *act* normal. But to get back to normal, I *have* to act normal. OCD has its own crazy logic...

>That sounds very hard. I will pray this gets better for you soon.

It's hard, yeah. But things really are looking better, and my therapist and I are confident that we can nip this in the bud. It's just been a very bumpy road getting to this point. :/

>Thanks for liking my Freddie blog :)

I'm working on updating F&P with a new layout, because I intend to post more regularly again - you know, to be normal and all. I'm going to put a little button/badge thingy for your site in my "Check these out" box.

If you'd like, I could make a layout for your blog! I love your main image - those are great piccies! But if you ever want me to whip something up for you, just let me know. :) I also have to say - I LOVE the name of the blog! It's so perfect! :D

Take care, talk to you later, and cheery bye! :D

PS - REMEMBER THE TROUSERS!
Niner: angst_pirate[info]angst_pirate on April 3rd, 2005 12:10 am (UTC)
*BIG HUGS* I'm sorry that some people are stuck with having to struggle through things like this. I am constantly watch my brother struggle against himself for freedom to be "normal" that I fear he will never be able to have the peace of mind of having. I struggle enough to get people to undrestand that when I say I have ADHD it is not fake and it is not an excuse, it's just a warning ahead of time that I may become insanely hyper and am easily distracted and that I try my best every day to fight those tendancies and that taking my meds is not the whole solution. Thus I salute you in your efforts to spread understanding about your condition.
I can say/testify (having at one time been a closeted self-homophobe) that your condition, just from your discription here is different and a million times more sevear(sp?) in a you-don't-just-get-over-it kind of way. I'm glad that you can recognize the victory that you have accomplished every day and I wish you strength in continuing that.

I'm home in a month, perhaps I can drive by and hang out and/or bring other hs buddies with me?

Oh and just to make you laugh... (I know this is not an intense thing for me insofar as it being a metal condition) but I was thinking about how now that I've accepted my "gayiety", i sometimes freak out about being straight, lol. poor Conor XD. So... just curious, is there a Heterosexual OCD?

Also, your british comedy club and my creative writing club combined into the film appreciation club, lol.

Oh and whenever I hear mothy python of Dr. Who I think of you and your club, haha.
So... signing off *salute* K.I.T.
Niner[info]angst_pirate on April 3rd, 2005 12:11 am (UTC)
correction
that should be or Dr. Who, not of, lol
Scarlett[info]scarlett_h on April 3rd, 2005 12:30 pm (UTC)
>*BIG HUGS*

Big hugs back! *huggles* :D

>I am constantly watch my brother struggle against himself for freedom to be >"normal" that I fear he will never be able to have the peace of mind of having.

I'm so sorry... what is he struggling with, if I may ask? (Why am I suddenly so formal?)

>I struggle enough to get people to undrestand that when I say I have ADHD it >is not fake and it is not an excuse, it's just a warning ahead of time that I >may become insanely hyper and am easily distracted and that I try my best >every day to fight those tendancies and that taking my meds is not the whole solution.

I don't have ADD/ADHD, but I can't stand how it's made fun of in the media and seen as an "excuse". It's a disorder and it's terribly difficult to deal with. I'm sorry that you have to deal with idiot people who don't understand. We disordered people have to stand together! :D

>Thus I salute you in your efforts to spread understanding about your condition.

Eh, I wish I could say that post was an effort to spread understanding... it was half venting/half effort. ;) But ooh, I got a salute! :) I feel special. :D

>I'm home in a month, perhaps I can drive by and hang out and/or bring other hs buddies with me?

Yes yes yes! Let's get a plan together or something, like figuring out what day would be best for everyone, and all that. Dang you and your living-in-New York-ness! You need to live here again so you can be bored with the rest of us. ;)

>Oh and just to make you laugh... (I know this is not an intense thing for me >insofar as it being a metal condition) but I was thinking about how now that >I've accepted my "gayiety", i sometimes freak out about being straight, lol. >poor Conor XD. So... just curious, is there a Heterosexual OCD?

I'm being absolutely serious when I say that yes, there is a Heterosexual OCD. I'm not joking, it's a real obsession. It's just as horrible as the "gay obsession", but it's just switched around! I've read about some people's experiences with Het OCD (I just made that term up, I don't know if it has a real name!) on OCD bulletin boards... OCD is just a potato sack of fun, isn't it? :/

>Also, your british comedy club and my creative writing club combined into the film appreciation club, lol.

Excellent! That's great! :D

>Oh and whenever I hear mothy python of Dr. Who I think of you and your club

Whenever I see one of my brother's Manga books or anything anime/comic book-y I think of you! I'll be able to say, one day, that I knew the famous comic illustrator Nina way back when... ;)

>*salute*

I'm not cool enough to salute, so... *thumbs up* :)

I hope everything's going OK for you; I really enjoy keeping up with your adventures in your LJ! ;)

Cheery bye!
(no subject) - [info]secretive_bus on April 3rd, 2005 04:10 am (UTC)
Scarlett[info]scarlett_h on April 3rd, 2005 01:34 pm (UTC)
[several comments deleted]

Sorry for the... er... badness that ensued. Now that we've got that sorted... thanks. Apparently I can be pretty mean when I put my mind to it... I'm really sorry that you had to be the one to find that out! :/
secretive_bus[info]secretive_bus on April 3rd, 2005 07:54 pm (UTC)
I'll admit that I haven't read this entire entry, but I reckon I've read enough to know the basics of what you're going through.

To go randomly off topic and drone on about me own problems for a bit (sometimes it makes ya feel better if you know that somebody is, if not in the same boat, in some form of primitive submersible, as Hartnell would say ;-) )I often question my own sexuality, as I often seem to find myself far more content to talk about the attractiveness of men than women, and often keep my slightly more sensual views on women to myself - not even discussing them with close friends. But I think this is a knock on effect of the gender roles in society now - men seem to always be labelled sexist if they talk about a woman's physicality in any way, and as a result of City Boys I don't want to be put into a typical male category. So I've been distancing myself from my sexuality to prove that I'm different from then. Silly I know, but that's how it is. I am still a heterosexual (which will be a big relief to my ladyfriend ;-) ), but really, very few people *don't* have occasional erotic thoughts about the opposite sex. I've imagined what it'd be like to kiss other men, sure, and occasionally a bit further, but there's a big difference between imagining and actually doing it - I doubt I'd ever want to actually kiss a chap in real life. As much as I may think myself to be a bisexual, I could never see myself jumping into bed with a chap, whilst I would quite happily do so with a gal in a relationship - I just wouldn't get into a relationship with chap.

We all have these irrational thoughts at times. It's just a case of stepping back and looking at things objectively, I suppose! Which I'm terrible at. By the way, I'm no longer on medication - I never took more than three of those tablets. My mother wasn't too keen on the idea either, but the overwhelming amount of negative reactions to them from others (side effects and the such), plus the fact that apparently several lawsuits have been filed against Citalopram as people underneath the age of 18 have killed themselves because of it, has made sure that I have no faith in these at all. I may check to see other forms of anti depressants, but I don't think I'd need them. Though I have mood swings and often analyse the tragic aspects of life, i think these may be necessary to my work as an actor and as a comedian - my sense would be dulled otherwise. I think if I am to be successful, I'm going to have to be unhappy to some extent - I'll just have to make sure I'm with friends and a lady who can make sure I don't get *too* down. :-)
(Anonymous) on June 15th, 2005 09:27 pm (UTC)
Ive been going through the same damn thing
Hi Scarlett/Deanna, I read your story last night and I must say it sounds almost identical to my feelings over the past 5 months.
I'll begin by saying you sound like a wonderful caring and interesting person, shame your in the US and im in Australia.
I am 24, my whole life never really bothered questioning sexuality related issues, until this hit, then ive questioned everything ive ever done, and every attraction ive ever had for anyone.
The scariest part is at the beginning (January)I knew nothing of any of this, no meds ever, no OCD (well at least that I was aware of) I thought I must be some crazed closet case, it was only a month and a half ago that I found articles on HOCD, and it clicked. It immediately made me feel better, and for 10 days I was, feeling on the mend, I was agreeing with the thoughts, and the anxiety/panic had all but gone, and the real me was slowly coming back. I thought I was beyond the worst of it, or as you stated 'over it'. Then I had a stressful day at work, and heard a disturbing story from my sister which I couldn't get out of my head, and I noticed the anxiety back I thought 'well at least it isn't HOCD' and guess what back it was, and I was even more demoralised than ever that it was back. I got worse and worse, ended up in the emergency room at hospital, repetitive thoughts of wanting to kill myself 15 times a day (still get those but not quite as much) and an unbearable feeling. I didn't feel like anything, like all enjoyment from life had been sucked out of me (I still often feel like this). Ive started on some Zoloft (25mg) and CBT, but I think my therapist needs some more info on HOCD, I also think I need a psychologist. What meds have you found the most effective?
I would be in the 'Pure-O' category, in other words I don't have any compulsions as such, but I have probably always had some OCD quirky (getting heavily obsessed with everything im interested in, repeated worrying about things that dont matter, strange inferiority complex when it comes to girls, always breaking up words to the half way point when I see them on signs) but ive never experienced anything which caused me this level of angst/scary/depressed feelings.
I am actually at work at the moment, im still struggling a lot with this, I can relate fully to not wanting to act normal because you don't feel normal, I feel like an actor or just doing things to keep up appearances rather than for any enjoyment. Only 3 or so people know the full story of what ive been going through, the others I just say its anxiety/panic attacks/depression. I actually said to a friend at the start I would of rather had a heroin addiction than this, at least its something people can understand hehe. But I want to persist. One thing that does help me is realising my mind is trying to find a difinitive answer to an unanswerable question (I mean its not like I ever decided I was straight, it was just something I did)
I plan to go to America in 4 months, mind you I need to be in a lot better shape to be travelling, ive got a lovely girl in LA I am staying with, but would love to catch up at some stage when im over there. Where bouts are you in USland?

Anyway feel free to send me an email to alex_jac1980@yahoo.com

Take Care
ALEX xoxoxoxox